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- Date: Sun, 28 Aug 94 14:02:07 PDT
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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #970
- To: Info-Hams
-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Sun, 28 Aug 94 Volume 94 : Issue 970
-
- Today's Topics:
- Collins KW-1 for sale
- Columbus,OH Ham activity info
- I could use a Beverage (2 msgs)
- IPS Daily Report - 27 August 94
- MFJ-492 Memory Keyer
- Need 2m repeater info for West Orange, NJ
- Parkways (Re: Handies and NiMH accus?)
- Ragchewing conversational protocol
- Repeater List for DC Area?
- Santec fm-240 PL switch
- Standard C528A questions.
- W6RO @ The Queen Mary
- WANTED: Old HP parts/equipment
- Wimpy Audio Output - HT's & Mobiles (2 msgs)
- You have been a ham too long when yo
- You have been a ham too long when you ...
-
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-
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-
- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Aug 1994 09:44:36 -0400
- From: ankh.iia.org!ios.com!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Collins KW-1 for sale
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Aug 1994 22:11:08 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.duke.edu!eff!neoucom.edu!news.ysu.edu!yfn.ysu.edu!as779@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Columbus,OH Ham activity info
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I will be working in Columbus,OH for approximately 8 weeks starting
- after Labor Day. Would appreciate info on "good" 2m RPTs to use
- and other Ham activities (clubs,swaps,bbs's etc.).
- Please reply to aa010@detroit.freenet.org. TIA.
- --
- 73 de Chuck Reti WV8A Detroit,MI
- aa010@detroit.freenet.org
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 17:59:43 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!kludge@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: I could use a Beverage
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <33ha3o$jks@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) writes:
- >bbsuser@kd3bj.uucp (General BBS user login) says:
- >
- >>>Beverage is an antenna. It is also known as the wave antenna. It
- >>>is a wire of several wavelengths used to receive, not transmit.
- >
- > (rest deleted)
- >
- >Can someone explain in simple to language to one who should
- >know (me) why this antenna doesn't obey the law of reciprocity
- >or whatever it's called? Are there other types of antenna
- >that are good on transmit or receive only? This sounds like
- >the end of the Nth law of thermodynamics.
-
- Well, a vertical is much better for transmitting than receiving.
- It has a low angle of radiation for transmitting, but the same pattern
- also results in picking up a lot of local QRM.
-
- The Beverage is an antenna designed to be nonresonant, with a high-Z
- output, effectively. I suppose you could rig up a matching network
- to transmit from one, but it wouldn't be worth the trouble.
- --scott
- --
- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 21:24:34 GMT
- From: galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.ksu.ksu.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu!olesun!gcouger@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
- Subject: I could use a Beverage
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <kludgeCv5LzJ.K9J@netcom.com>,
- Scott Dorsey <kludge@netcom.com> wrote:
- >In article <33ha3o$jks@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) writes:
- >>bbsuser@kd3bj.uucp (General BBS user login) says:
- >>
- >>>>Beverage is an antenna. It is also known as the wave antenna. It
- >>>>is a wire of several wavelengths used to receive, not transmit.
- >>
- >> (rest deleted)
- >>
- >>Can someone explain in simple to language to one who should
- >>know (me) why this antenna doesn't obey the law of reciprocity
- >>or whatever it's called? Are there other types of antenna
- >>that are good on transmit or receive only? This sounds like
- >>the end of the Nth law of thermodynamics.
- >
- >Well, a vertical is much better for transmitting than receiving.
- >It has a low angle of radiation for transmitting, but the same pattern
- >also results in picking up a lot of local QRM.
- >
- >The Beverage is an antenna designed to be nonresonant, with a high-Z
- >output, effectively. I suppose you could rig up a matching network
- >to transmit from one, but it wouldn't be worth the trouble.
-
- You can transmit on a beverage but the gound losses are awful.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 28 Aug 1994 00:31:14 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.oz.au!yarrina.connect.com.au!news.uwa.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!metro!ipso!rwc@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: IPS Daily Report - 27 August 94
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT
- ISSUED AT 27/2330Z AUGUST 1994 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
- FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
- SUMMARY FOR 27 AUGUST AND FORECAST FOR 28 AUGUST - 30 AUGUST
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
- Activity: very low
-
- Flares: none.
-
- Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 71/6
-
- GOES satellite data for 26 Aug
- Daily Proton Fluence >1 MeV: 4.4E+05
- Daily Proton Fluence >10 MeV: 1.4E+04
- Daily Electron Fluence >2 MeV: 2.5E+06
- X-ray background: LT
- Fluence (flux accumulation over 24hrs)/ cm2-ster-day.
-
- 1B. SOLAR FORECAST
- 28 Aug 29 Aug 30 Aug
- Activity Very low Very low Very low
- Fadeouts None expected None expected None expected
-
- Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number for 28 Aug: 70/5
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
- Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: quiet to unsettled
-
- Estimated Indices : A K Observed A Index 26 Aug
- Learmonth 8 3322 2122
- Fredericksburg 8 8
- Planetary 7 6
-
- Observed Kp for 26 Aug: 0222 1113
- 2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
- DATE Ap CONDITIONS
- 28 Aug 9 Quiet to unsettled
- 29 Aug 6 Quiet
- 30 Aug 6 Quiet
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
- LATITUDE BAND
- DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH
- 27 Aug normal normal normal
- PCA Event : None.
-
- 3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
- LATITUDE BAND
- DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH
- 28 Aug normal normal fair
- 29 Aug normal normal normal
- 30 Aug normal normal normal
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
- Observed
- DATE T-index MUFs at Sydney
- 27 Aug 19 near predicted monthly values, limited data due to
- equipment failure.
-
- Predicted Monthly T-index for August: 20
-
- 4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
- DATE T-index MUFs
- 28 Aug 25 Near predicted monthly values
- 29 Aug 25 Near predicted monthly values
- 30 Aug 25 Near predicted monthly values
-
- --
- IPS Regional Warning Centre, Sydney |IPS Radio and Space Services
- RWC Duty Forecaster tel: +61 2 4148329 |PO Box 5606
- Recorded Message tel: +61 2 4148330 |West Chatswood NSW 2057
- email: rwc@ips.oz.au fax: +61 2 4148331 |AUSTRALIA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 09:39:51 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!al434@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: MFJ-492 Memory Keyer
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm thinking of getting an MFJ-492 Menu Driven Memory Keyer but
- have yet to see a product review so would appreciate any comments from
- those who know the product.
-
- Thanks & 73 . . . David VE3UOL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Aug 1994 00:06:15 GMT
- From: psinntp!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!newsserver.rdcs.Kodak.COM!kodaki.kodak.com!swohl@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Need 2m repeater info for West Orange, NJ
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- This message is being posted as a favor to a friend without netnews
- access. It is not an official statment of anything, let alone Eastman
- Kodak. Please e-mail davev@atkc.com or dkerk@ctp.org. Mail sent to
- this address will be trashed.
- ===================================================================
- Hi, by wife and I will be visiting my aunt and uncle in West Orange,
- and info on a good local West Orange repeater would be appreciated.
- They're up the hill from the old Edison museum, not that far from the
- area where the Edison house is. I remember there being a Path Mark mar
- et and a Christian radio station nearby that bled all over EVERYTHING,
- but this was back in 1989.
-
- Anyway, I will have a pair of HTX-202s, one for her and one for me,
- and I just wanted something to keep in touch when we are apart.
- SOmething local and quiet is ideal. Any 2 meter repeater info for the
- area will be MUCH appreciated. By the way, if there are any good open
- 2m repeaters in midtwn Manhattan, around 47th st and 7th ave, that would
- be appreciated too.
-
- Please reply to davev@atkc.com or dkerk@ctp.org
-
- Thank you KE6GXD & KE6KFN
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 27 Aug 94 10:22:42 GMT
- From: news2.new-york.net!starcomm.overleaf.com!n2ayj!n2ayj@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Parkways (Re: Handies and NiMH accus?)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <9407267779.AA777945434@smtpgty.anatcp.rockwell.c William_A._Kirsanoff@ccmail.anatcp.rockwell.COM writes:
- >
- >
- >Date: Thu, 25 Aug 94 15:40:49 GMT
- >Mike (who doesn't use a .sig) writes of Karl (who does):
- >
- > Karl Beckman, P.E. < If our English language is so >
- > Motorola LMPS.RNSG.Analog Data < precise, why do you drive on the >
- > (Square waves & round corners) < parkway and park on the driveway? >
- > Opinions expressed here do not belong to or represent Motorola Inc.
- > Amateur radio WA8NVW NavyMARS NNN0VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI
- >
- > I have a problem with this sig, I know what a driveway is but I do not
- > generally drive on a parkway, whatever one of those is. I assume it is the>
- > path that goes through a park? There is a parkway station, but again one
- > would never drive on it as the roof would collapse.
- >
- > Mike
- >
- >Perhaps if you knew what a parkway was, and lived in an area where that
- >term is used, you would drive on one. Dictionaries can be so instructive:
- >
- > park.way (n) A wide thoroughfare adorned with
- > spaces planted with turf and trees.
- >
- >In other words, a highly landscaped highway. The term seems more
- >prevalent in the Eastern U.S. I believe New Jersey's toll way is
- >called "The Garden State Parkway". I hope this helps you deal
- >with your problem. (Oh, and don't expect to make sense of my
- >.sig either.) :-)
- >
- You are exhibiting much correctness, sir. For the most reasonable
- explanationof this that I've ever heard, allow me to quote unto you
- from David Feldman's "Why Do Dogs Have Wet Noses...?"
- in which he quotes himself in "Who Put the Butter in Butterfly?":
-
- "One of the main definitions of -way- is "a route or course that is
- or may be used to go from one place to another". New York's Robert
- Moses dubbed his "route or course that was used to go from one place
- to another" -parkway- because it was lined with trees and lawns to
- simulate the beauty of a park. The -driveway-, just as a -highway-,
- a -freeway-, or a -parkway-, is a path for automobiles. The driveway is a
- path, a -way- between the street and a house or a garage."
-
- We do indeed call ours the Garden State Parkway, although waiting at
- the barrier tools that slow traffic to a crawl, it is sometimes like
- sitting in a driveway.
-
- For reasons beyond my comprehension, driving on -parkways- does
- indeed seem to be a Northeastern thing. Others that spring to mind
- are the Merrit, Sprain, and the Saw Mill (River). When one says
- "The Parkway" in NY Metro however, it usually means the GSP.
-
- BTW, I highly recommend Mr. Feldman's Imponderables books for fun
- and dispute resolution. They include:
-
- "Why Do clocks Run Clockwise..?"
- "Who Put the Butter in Butterfly..?"
- "When Do Fish Sleep...?"
- "Why Do Dogs Have Wet Noses...?"
- and, of course, the original "Imponderables..."
-
- --
- Stan Olochwoszcz, N2AYJ - n2ayj@n2ayj.overleaf.com
- I NEED A JOB. PLEASE, e-mail fax number for resume. Central NJ preferred.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Aug 1994 18:50:15 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!astro.as.utexas.edu!oo7@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Ragchewing conversational protocol
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- steve@vigra.com (Steve Haehnichen) says:
-
- >>Well well.. looks like I'm not alone! I've had my ticket for two
- >>months or so, and I'm starting to get frustrated with the constant
- >>stream of ham-radio talk on 2m and 440. Sometimes it seems like it's
- >>all talk about repeaters, ham gear, FCC this-and-than, and Nets.. I
- >>myself simply can't imagine getting excited about QSL cards and
- >>contests. :-) (To each their own, I guess.)
-
- I see a lot of posts like this. So can I ask, in what is meant to
- be a completely non-inflammatory way, what attracted you to amateur
- radio in the first place?
-
- In my case, I was an SWL for a year or so as a teenager, and decided
- that CW DXing was what I wanted to do, so I got a license and have been
- doing it ever since. I knew what I was getting into, and while I do a
- few other things beside DXing, they alone would not be enough to keep
- me interested in the hobby.
-
- When I got on the air, it was just as I imagined it would be - there
- were no real surprises and I didn't get tired of it after two months.
- Getting a license doesn't magically make you, or anyone else, a more
- interesting person. I assume that you listened to hams for some time
- before going to the trouble of getting a license - has anything changed
- since then?
-
- By your own admission, you're not interested in contests or DXing, and
- you don't like "ham-radio talk" - what would make it more interesting
- for you?
-
-
- Derek Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX)
- Department of Astronomy, University of Texas,
- Austin TX 78712. (512-471-1392)
- oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 11:22:39 UNDEFINED
- From: psinntp!pbs.org!dalbert.pbs.org!dalbert@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Repeater List for DC Area?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Does anyone know where I can get a 2m repeater list for the
- Washington DC area?
-
- Thanks!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Aug 1994 20:27:56 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!news.uh.edu!news.sccsi.com!nuchat!acs@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Santec fm-240 PL switch
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I have a borrowed Santec FM-240 2d meter xcvr without the manual. How do
- you turn on the PL? I fingered out how to set the PL freq to 103.5, but
- it doesn't indicate being on when looking at the LCD screen and won't key
- up any repeaters except those operating with COR.
-
- Any help will be appreciated. Thanks and 73
-
- de W5EZM, A.C. in Houston
-
- --
- A. C. Spraggins acs@nuchat.sccsi.com
- South Coast Computing Services, Inc. w5ezm@sugarland.ampr.org
- P. O. Box 270355 (713) 917-5000
- Houston, TX 77277-0355 (713) 917-5005 fax
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Aug 1994 17:40:18 -0500
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!news.uh.edu!uuneo.neosoft.com!blkbox.COM!jpunix.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Standard C528A questions.
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
-
- I have a Standard C528A 2m/440 transceiver and I have a question
- about accessories. I was looking at a catalog for accessories from
- Standard and they sure are proud of their accessories! Anyway, I was
- wondering what an equivalent model would be for a battery pack and a
- speaker-mike? What will work with a Standard C528A?
-
-
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- --
-
- John A. Perry - perry@jpunix.com
- Finger perry@jpunix.com for PGP 2.6 public key.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Aug 1994 10:48:02 -0700
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.cerf.net!gopher.sdsc.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!csulb.edu!paris.ics.uci.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: W6RO @ The Queen Mary
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- If I read the original question correctly, you want to know if W6RO
- is still in operation and how to operate there. I know that W6RO
- is still operating on the Queen Mary as late as yesterday. I
- operated there a few times last year. The Queen was sold, I understand,
- but the W6RO boys made the right arrangements to keep the station
- going on board.
-
- I believe that there is a photo and some info about how to operate
- on the Queen Mary in this months QST. If you cannot find it, let
- me know and I can post the info here.
-
- Clark
- WA3JPG
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 15:05:24 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!udel!news.sprintlink.net!mv!ka1dt.mv.com!knight@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: WANTED: Old HP parts/equipment
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- My HP113BR has had a mechanical failure in the clock gear train. I'd like to
- find a replacement for the clock assembly, or if necessary, I'd purchase a
- complete HP113BR. If someone out there has a working HP 115BR, that
- would be even better.
-
- Also, fwiw, I'd like to find an HP106A or HP106B.
-
- Anyone having any of these items for sale, please send me mail at
- knight@ka1dt.mv.com or knight@caboom.zko.dec.com. Please give
- condition and price in message.
-
- Thanks, Dave Knight, KA1DT
-
-
- --------
- Dave Knight knight@ka1dt.mv.com (home)
- Nashua, NH knight@caboom.zko.dec.com (work)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 22:19:04 GMT
- From: hplntx!hpscit.sc.hp.com!icon!greg@hplabs.hpl.hp.com
- Subject: Wimpy Audio Output - HT's & Mobiles
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Nice ideas re piping the mobile's audio into the car stereo's system via the
- CD port. The problem is that you can't be monitoring the mobile while listening
- to the car's radio.
-
- Anyway you can merge the two without degrading the already marginal car stereo
- system? (i.e. can't hijack one of the speakers...)
-
- Greg.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Aug 1994 16:55:41 GMT
- From: thecourier.cims.nyu.edu!longlast.cs.nyu.edu!jackson@nyu.arpa
- Subject: Wimpy Audio Output - HT's & Mobiles
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- |> run two radios at the same time thru the car's stereo system
-
- Wish I'd thought of that one! I just snipped the end and
- replaced the plug with a mini mono adapter so that the audio
- would be "binaural".
-
- --
- Steven Jackson, Assistant to the Chair of Computer Science
- Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences, New York University
- 251 Mercer Street, NY NY 10012
-
- Work <-- (forwarded) Home
- jackson@cs.nyu.edu, jcksnste@acfcluster.nyu.edu, sjackson@cjbbs.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Aug 1994 14:20:47 GMT
- From: news.delphi.com!davesparks@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: You have been a ham too long when yo
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- > How about when you retire from the United States Air Force after 20 long
- > years, and then go to school for six months <looking for work all the
- > while and not finding it> and then end up working at your favorite ham
- > radio store...
- >
- > Happened to me!
- >
- > 73 de WK1V
- > -jim-
- >
- > Oh well, can't be a VE anymore... :(
-
- Just out of curiosity, why not? Is that considered a "conflict of
- interest", or something?
-
- /--------------+----------------------------------------\
- | | Internet: davesparks@delphi.com |
- | Dave Sparks | Fidonet: Dave Sparks @ 1:207/212 |
- | | BBS: (909) 353-9821 - 14.4K |
- | KD6PDZ | Packet: KD6PDZ@N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA |
- \--------------+----------------------------------------/
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 17:10:37 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news.eecs.nwu.edu!tellab5!jwa@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: You have been a ham too long when you ...
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <Cv3Jo1.KKp@fore.com> ed@fore.com (Ed Bathgate) writes:
- >drive past somebody you know, instead of tooting beep - beep on the car horn,
- >you beep -.-.--.-
- >
- >
- How about when you call your favorite Ham Radio Store and say
- "This Joe WA9XXX" with out giving your last name!
-
-
-
-
- ---
- Jack Albert WA9FVP (Fellow Radio Hacker)
- Tellabs Operations Inc.
- 1000 Remington Blvd Voice (708) 378-6201
- Bolingbrook, IL 60440 FAX (708) 378-6721
-
-
- "I'm normal, I'm normal, I'm normal"!
-
- From MTV's Liquid Television
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: (null)
- From: (null)
- Gordon AB5DG
-
- Gordon Couger
- Biosystems & Agricultural Engineering
- Oklahoma State University
- 114 Ag Hall, Stillwater, OK 74074
- gcouger@olesun.agen.okstate.edu 405-744-9763 day 624-2855 evenings
- I do not speak for my employer
-
- ------------------------------
-
- End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #970
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